No word from the carpenters yet as to when the surgery will be taking place tomorrow, though it should likely be in the afternoon i think they told me. it's a five hour surgery and that much i know for sure. anyways they're all up there tonight so let our prayers be with them for the next while at the least. they're going to be calling and ill be relaying as i know, when i know. and once again their thanks to everyone. we'll see ya next week ben.